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they pay more tax than governor romney pays on his federal income tax. i have had it up to here, this 47%. it's time to take responsibility here. instead of signing pledges to grover nor quis not to ask the wealthiest among us to bring back to middle class, sign a pledge saying we are going to level the playing field. >> romney is a good man. he cares about 100% of americans in this country. with respect to that quote, i think the vice president very well knows sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> but i always say what i mean. >> vice president biden and congressman ryan trading bars over government spending and the administration stimulus plan during the financial crisis. >> they passed the similar lus. we could boarry $831 billion, spend it on special interest groups and it would work out fine. unemployment was above 8% for 43 months. if we passed the stimulus, it would grow to 4%. it's 1.3. >> i love my friend here. i'm not allowed to show letters but go on our website. he sent two letters saying by the way, can you send
they pay more tax than governor romney pays on his federal income tax. i have had it up to here, this 47%. it's time to take responsibility here. instead of signing pledges to grover nor quis not to ask the wealthiest among us to bring back to middle class, sign a pledge saying we are going to level the playing field. >> romney is a good man. he cares about 100% of americans in this country. with respect to that quote, i think the vice president very well knows sometimes the words don't...
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plan. >> this was dishonest. >> i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. >> the governor knows his $5 trillion tax cut isn't too popular, so a few weeks before the election, he's trying to pretend it doesn't exist. >> reporter: president obama at a star-studded fundraising concert in los angeles sunday heads to san francisco today with romney's poll numbers improving. >> they're looking very good. i feel very good. >> reporter: after the debate, romney is within two points of the president. and tomorrow, both candidates head to ohio, battleground ohio, where early voting is already under way. tomorrow is the last day to register to vote there. veronica? >> thank you. mitt romney will deliver that major policy speech before noon eastern, but the obama campaign is issuing a preemptive strike with this new tv ad criticizing the republican candidate's past foreign policy faux pas. take a look. >> reckless. amateurish. that's what news media and fellow republicans called mitt romney's gaffe-filled july tour of england, israel, and poland, when our u.s. diplomats were attacked in libya,
plan. >> this was dishonest. >> i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. >> the governor knows his $5 trillion tax cut isn't too popular, so a few weeks before the election, he's trying to pretend it doesn't exist. >> reporter: president obama at a star-studded fundraising concert in los angeles sunday heads to san francisco today with romney's poll numbers improving. >> they're looking very good. i feel very good. >> reporter: after the debate, romney is...
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massive tax increase. romney cannot defend this plan on its merits, so he simply says i'll negotiate this with congress. it doesn't matter what he negotiates, there's not enough money there. it's a simple matter of arithmetic. but he's being a smooth liar about this. >> is the mathematics policy? can you offset $5 trillion with big deductions by getting rid of them when he said tonight to accomplicer, i'm going to leave the mortgage preference, the charitable preference, what is left? >> first off, you're kind of misquoting what he said. number one, he said it's not a $5 trillion dr. >> 4.8. >> but it is. i don't care what he says, he's lying. it is $5 trillion. >> bob, let me make mire point. >> don't repeat his lie without any evidence. >> i'm not repeating it. the fact you call it a lie, you take that up with him. >> no, he's the one who's lying. >> let me make the point. how does it not -- >> the fact of the matter is he's identified that what he's going to do is limply fill the tax code in a number of
massive tax increase. romney cannot defend this plan on its merits, so he simply says i'll negotiate this with congress. it doesn't matter what he negotiates, there's not enough money there. it's a simple matter of arithmetic. but he's being a smooth liar about this. >> is the mathematics policy? can you offset $5 trillion with big deductions by getting rid of them when he said tonight to accomplicer, i'm going to leave the mortgage preference, the charitable preference, what is left?...
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romney closing the gap in a number of these battleground states, continues to say that the $5 trillion tax cut romney's proposing would add to the deficit and romney insists it is absolutely not true. >> he said if he says it's not true, then it's not true. okay. >> reporter: in battleground ohio, president obama insists mitt romney's tax cut will add $5 trillion to the deficit. >> if it's true that it's not going to add to the deficit, that leaves only one option and that's asking middle class families to foot bill. >> reporter: the president's charge of a $5 trillion tax cut is obviously inaccurate and wrong. >> reporter: romney also in ohio mocked the obama campaign's mocking his plan to cut funds for pbs. >> big bird. >> big bird. >> big bird. >> he's focused on saving big bird. kind of a strange thing in my view because you see i'm focused on helping the american people get good jobs. >> reporter: sesame's street now asked the obama campaign to pull the big bird ad, yet there are weightier questions here as congress looks in to whether the u.s. was warned of the deadly libya attack. >
romney closing the gap in a number of these battleground states, continues to say that the $5 trillion tax cut romney's proposing would add to the deficit and romney insists it is absolutely not true. >> he said if he says it's not true, then it's not true. okay. >> reporter: in battleground ohio, president obama insists mitt romney's tax cut will add $5 trillion to the deficit. >> if it's true that it's not going to add to the deficit, that leaves only one option and that's...
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is a poll tax constitutional or unconstitutional? >> poll tax would be. i don't understand -- that's like saying to drive on a road is a poll tax -- you have to get a license to enter a government building there is a poll tax because you have to show a photo i.d. to get government been pits a poll tax because you have to show i.d. to get those benefits. so -- if that's your standard, a, it is against 70% to 80% of -- >> poll tax only deals with when you are going to the polls. poll tax only deals with -- poll tax really only deals when you are going to the polls. >> i know what a poll tax is. >> driving on a road and getting a lines, that's not a poll tax. going into a government build sing not a poll tax. flying on an airplane and showing your passport is not a poll tax. going to vote and having to prove who you are but having to go out and spend money on getting that i.d. or driving positive miles because you don't have an i.d. place in your town and you have to drive this distance to get one, that is a poll tax. that costs you money. >> as far as i'm a
is a poll tax constitutional or unconstitutional? >> poll tax would be. i don't understand -- that's like saying to drive on a road is a poll tax -- you have to get a license to enter a government building there is a poll tax because you have to show a photo i.d. to get government been pits a poll tax because you have to show i.d. to get those benefits. so -- if that's your standard, a, it is against 70% to 80% of -- >> poll tax only deals with when you are going to the polls. poll...
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i don't have that tax plan i had for the last two years. you going to believe me or your lying eyes here? come on. >> in the final weeks of the campaign, the obama campaign may want to use a little more of the big dog and a little less of big bird, you might say. anyway, msnbc political panelist eugene robinson is with "the washington post" and cynthia turk is visiting. cynthia, it always brings our spirits up seeing bill in action. he finds the joy in it. in that this guy is a bit of a con artist and he's reinvented the whole massachusetts governor for the purpose of 90 minutes. and whenever's anyone's really listening in the big crowd, he reverts to the old bad stuff the minute nobody's looking. >> and chris, he explains all that in terms that people understood. he does it with a smile on his face. he doesn't seem in any way mean or harsh or vindictive. he seems funny, which he is. it's also clear that bill clinton is having a really good time. he enjoys being on the campaign trail. he enjoys politics in a way that i don't think that pres
i don't have that tax plan i had for the last two years. you going to believe me or your lying eyes here? come on. >> in the final weeks of the campaign, the obama campaign may want to use a little more of the big dog and a little less of big bird, you might say. anyway, msnbc political panelist eugene robinson is with "the washington post" and cynthia turk is visiting. cynthia, it always brings our spirits up seeing bill in action. he finds the joy in it. in that this guy is a...
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elizabeth warren made of american heritage but plenty of jousting on policy issues like job creation, taxes, and which candidate sticks up for the middle class. >> the one thing you can't be doing now in the middle of this 3 1/2 year recession is taking more money out of people's hard-working pocketbooks and wallets and giving it to the federal government. they're like pigs in a trough up there. they take and take and take. >> this has been pretty much my life's work is talking about what is happening to america's middle class. let's face it, america's middle class is just getting hammered. republicans have a vision, cut taxes for those at the top and let the chips fall where they may for everybody else. >> when you talk about getting hammered, i suggest you put down the hammer. because it's your regulations and your policies that are going to be hurting -- >> the fourth and final debate between warren and brown scheduled for october 30th, one week before voters in massachusetts go to the polls. >>> the deaths of four americans in the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya, septemb
elizabeth warren made of american heritage but plenty of jousting on policy issues like job creation, taxes, and which candidate sticks up for the middle class. >> the one thing you can't be doing now in the middle of this 3 1/2 year recession is taking more money out of people's hard-working pocketbooks and wallets and giving it to the federal government. they're like pigs in a trough up there. they take and take and take. >> this has been pretty much my life's work is talking...
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i don't have a tax cut that's $4.8 trillion or $5 trillion. i'm not going to cut taxes on the rich. i don't have a medicare voucher plan. i love teachers, i think we need more of them. i mean, look, don't believe me, speaker gingrich was pretty eloquent in running during the primaries in saying, look, mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. >> well, one thing i have been saying about the campaign is the president needs surrogates out there, he needs confederates, people out there. i love charleston. a lot of people -- rather charlotte because in charlotte you heard an entire political party speaking led by people like deval patrick, the governor of massachusetts, after you saw mr. mayor. i think it sounds better when it's a serenade than when it's a solo. what do you think about that? because the other guy has these terrible attack dogs out there, people like trump pitching the birtherism nonsense, sununu talking about being lazy. you got priebus and his nonsense about him being from europe and foreign and newt saying terrible things not to mention jack welch trying
i don't have a tax cut that's $4.8 trillion or $5 trillion. i'm not going to cut taxes on the rich. i don't have a medicare voucher plan. i love teachers, i think we need more of them. i mean, look, don't believe me, speaker gingrich was pretty eloquent in running during the primaries in saying, look, mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. >> well, one thing i have been saying about the campaign is the president needs surrogates out there, he needs confederates, people...
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all the old argument, how much of his tax deductions cover his tax deductions. boring. >> it's got to be about where are the mortgage -- where are the tax deductions you're going to get rid of, for example, on taxes? i think that's important for -- >> they won't tell you. >> then they've got to say -- >> he's already said he's not going to -- >> the other big thing is medicare. >> grandma on that bus searching around town trying to -- >> that's what i want to know. 80-year-old grandma on a bus to buy anything let alone to get a health insurance program that meets her budget given to her by paul ryan. >> and i agree with you also, chris. if they talk about the tax thing too much in the context of deficit reduction, it doesn't help them because that's not the president's strongest turf. >> i know i ask you all of the great questions because you're a great reporter. it sounds like you're saying that the vice president will not go for the kill. he won't nail them on the 47%, nail them on vouchers, nail him on the emergency rooms. will he do that? >> no. look, i had
all the old argument, how much of his tax deductions cover his tax deductions. boring. >> it's got to be about where are the mortgage -- where are the tax deductions you're going to get rid of, for example, on taxes? i think that's important for -- >> they won't tell you. >> then they've got to say -- >> he's already said he's not going to -- >> the other big thing is medicare. >> grandma on that bus searching around town trying to -- >> that's what i...
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i don't have that tax plan i had for the last two years. you going to believe me or your lying eyes here, come on. >> former house speaker and illinois republican dennis hastert, who's a romney supporter. good morning. >> good morning. >> i want to ask about the comments that president clinton made moderate mitt do you believe that romney has tacked to the center over the last few weeks? >> i think he wants to be president of 100% of all of the people in the united states. he has to address concerns to more moderate people that he has that sensitivity. i think he proved that as governor of massachusetts. >> do you think he had waited too long to do that? >> that's the way we have to go. and i looked at what he did in massachusetts. he went across the aisle, went with the legislature that was 87% democrat and got things done. and i think he has to prove that to the american people, i think if he's going to win, he's got the republicans. if he has to win the middle. and he has to go out and talk about how he can bring this country together an
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they have some obligations to society, and yet they are saying, i don't want to be taxed and if i'm taxed, then i'm going to take it out on all of you, that have less job security than you've ever had, whose wages continue to drop, and whose homes not worth 30% less than they were worth before. >> do you think these pressure tactics are going to work on workers? i mean, there is, you know, a fear in the job place in america when bosses act like this. you know, they don't want to lose their job. they saw harry down the street lost his job and their family is having a hard time. that kind of thinking sets in, what the heck, it's just a vote, i'm going to go ahead and do it. what do you think about that? >> it's possible, ed. this is a very, very, very tight election. and even if you have 5% of the workers who are intimidated like this or 3% or 2%, it could make a difference. and with unemployment still high, it's getting better, but unemployment's still high, a lot of people are looking for work, there's not enough job security out there to guard against this kind of intimidation. >> what d
they have some obligations to society, and yet they are saying, i don't want to be taxed and if i'm taxed, then i'm going to take it out on all of you, that have less job security than you've ever had, whose wages continue to drop, and whose homes not worth 30% less than they were worth before. >> do you think these pressure tactics are going to work on workers? i mean, there is, you know, a fear in the job place in america when bosses act like this. you know, they don't want to lose...
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he was exposed for lying on the tax plan. he was exposed for lying on medicare. he was exposed to somebody that wants to privatize social security. he was exposed as a ticket that is politicalizing a tragedy in the middle east. the vice president called him out. i was so proud of him. >> some are saying the one weak point was the response to the initial question on libya. >> they sent the u.n. ambassador out to say this is because of a protest and youtube video. >> that is exactly what we were told by intelligence community. >> by who? >> the intelligence community told us that as they learned more facts about exactly what happened. they changed their assessment. >> joe scarborough this morning, as well as in "the daily standard," they said this that biden throws the intelligence community under the bus. what's your thought here? was the vice president not aware of the congressional testimony that happened on tuesday? the full tick tock that had come out? it didn't sync with his answer, necessarily. >> i think there will be more to be said on this today. i'm not
he was exposed for lying on the tax plan. he was exposed for lying on medicare. he was exposed to somebody that wants to privatize social security. he was exposed as a ticket that is politicalizing a tragedy in the middle east. the vice president called him out. i was so proud of him. >> some are saying the one weak point was the response to the initial question on libya. >> they sent the u.n. ambassador out to say this is because of a protest and youtube video. >> that is...
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if you're part of the republican consensus that says no new taxes even for the wealthiest americans, how in the world do you pay for that, and what does that 4% of gdp towards defense that we don't need, what does that do to our deficit? after all the foundation of our national security is our economic security and we have to remember that. >> thanks for your time tonight, michele. i'd like to have you back another night. >> thanks. i would be happy to do that. >> we'll be right back. [ mother bear ] you're not using too much are you, hon? [ female announcer ] charmin ultra soft is so soft you'll have to remind your family they can use less. it's made with extra cushions that are soft and more absorbent. plus you can use four times less. charmin ultra soft. >>> in election season, pundits follow the campaigns, but political scientists don't necessarily follow the campaigns. some of them instead follow this. one of the lousier determinist theories holds it doesn't matter how much the candidates are, it's really the price of gas that determines who wins the election. this theory has ba
if you're part of the republican consensus that says no new taxes even for the wealthiest americans, how in the world do you pay for that, and what does that 4% of gdp towards defense that we don't need, what does that do to our deficit? after all the foundation of our national security is our economic security and we have to remember that. >> thanks for your time tonight, michele. i'd like to have you back another night. >> thanks. i would be happy to do that. >> we'll be...
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i don't have that tax plan i had for the last two years. you going to believe me or your lying eyes here? come on. >> the national gallup tracking poll of likely voters shows the presidential race even now at 48%. and tonight nate silver's forecasted that obama will win 294 electoral college votes and mitt romney will win 245. and president obama has a 68% chance of winning the election. it seems like 24 hours ago when we first heard mitt romney say that line yesterday, there's no legislation with regards to abortion that i am familiar with that would become part of my agenda. so many questions in there. you mean you're not familiar with it? and then here's his spokesperson today saying absolutely, he will sign -- as we said last night -- he will sign any legislation that a republican congress hands him on this. >> yeah. i think we've just discovered, lawrence, how long the leash around mitt romney extends. and just where it snaps and where it -- where that is is with social conservatives. it was funny because andrea saul, his spokesperson,
i don't have that tax plan i had for the last two years. you going to believe me or your lying eyes here? come on. >> the national gallup tracking poll of likely voters shows the presidential race even now at 48%. and tonight nate silver's forecasted that obama will win 294 electoral college votes and mitt romney will win 245. and president obama has a 68% chance of winning the election. it seems like 24 hours ago when we first heard mitt romney say that line yesterday, there's no...
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if you're part of the republican consensus that says no new taxes even for the wealthiest americans, how in the world do you pay for that, and what does that 4% of gdp towards defense that we don't need, what does that do to our deficit? after all the foundation of our national security is our economic security and we have to remember that. >> thanks for your time tonight, michele. i'd like to have you back another night. >> thanks. i would be happy to do that. >> we'll be right back. so you say men are superior drivers? yeah. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? [ male announcer ] start with nothing, build a ground-breaking car. good. now build a time machine. go here, find someone who can build a futuristic dash board display. bring future guy back. watch him build a tft display like nothing you've ever seen. get him to explain exactly what that is. the thin film transistor display... [ male announcer ] mmm, maybe not. just show
if you're part of the republican consensus that says no new taxes even for the wealthiest americans, how in the world do you pay for that, and what does that 4% of gdp towards defense that we don't need, what does that do to our deficit? after all the foundation of our national security is our economic security and we have to remember that. >> thanks for your time tonight, michele. i'd like to have you back another night. >> thanks. i would be happy to do that. >> we'll be...
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you have refused, and, again, to offer specifics on how you pay for that 20% across the board tax cut. do you actually have the specifics, or are you still working on it and that's why you won't tell voters? >> and when he wouldn't give her the specifics she followed up by saying, okay, no specifics. by knowing what she was talking about particularly on foreign policy but essentially the whole night and by interrupting judicially and ab libbing appropriate follow-up questions martha raddatz covered a lot of ground that did not get touched if last week's debate, that has not been touched in the campaign much at all really and importantly helped expose some big blank spots on the policy map for the challenging party in this presidential race which before last night had been able to get away with zero specifics on anything they did not want to be specific about. so last night paul ryan either had to give specifics or we finally, finally got a giant national spotlight shining on the fact that he had no specifics to offer. that's why this debate was awesome. that's why this debate went fas
you have refused, and, again, to offer specifics on how you pay for that 20% across the board tax cut. do you actually have the specifics, or are you still working on it and that's why you won't tell voters? >> and when he wouldn't give her the specifics she followed up by saying, okay, no specifics. by knowing what she was talking about particularly on foreign policy but essentially the whole night and by interrupting judicially and ab libbing appropriate follow-up questions martha...
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and the bottom 20% earned only 3.4% of the taxes and paid 2.1% of the taxes. in the end it all evens out. people pay the same percentage of the taxes as they earned of the income. sound pretty darn fair to me, david. no redistribution there. just carrying one's fair share. yet david said he's so frustrated his motivation to work may be destroyed all together because of the current system. he blamed it all on a system that penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive. but again he is wrong. government has to take from all for the good of all. including for the good of mr. siegel. just one example. westgate's property at the smoky mountain resort and spa in gatlinberg tennessee people go there and pay there siegel a whole lot of money to appreciate the beauty of the great smoky mountains. the first national park in which the federal government spent its own money to wyland. no national park, no resort that people would pay for. you wouldn't want to build a resort there without reliable public and fire system or the road to get there or the system to gi
and the bottom 20% earned only 3.4% of the taxes and paid 2.1% of the taxes. in the end it all evens out. people pay the same percentage of the taxes as they earned of the income. sound pretty darn fair to me, david. no redistribution there. just carrying one's fair share. yet david said he's so frustrated his motivation to work may be destroyed all together because of the current system. he blamed it all on a system that penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive. but again he is...
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>>tax cuts don't create jobs. the golden years as the conservatives call them, we had the highest tax rates, and the highest amount of growth, and the highest amount of jobs. those are facts. >>"if you ever raise taxes on the rich, you're going to destroy our economy." not true! >>> not a single thing he said is accurate. first of all -- >> be specific. >> i will be very specific. this lecture on embassy security. the congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for number 1. >> jennifer: congressman ryan could not have been to happy about challenging him on that. congressman ryan voted to authorize $300 million less for embassy security than requested by the obama administration. that's just one of the many misleading statements about foreign policy that emerged from congressman ryan last night. here to help up dissect the truth, former secretary of defense, lawrence corb. so great to have you back. >> nice to be with you. >> ms. cutter criticized governor romney because
>>tax cuts don't create jobs. the golden years as the conservatives call them, we had the highest tax rates, and the highest amount of growth, and the highest amount of jobs. those are facts. >>"if you ever raise taxes on the rich, you're going to destroy our economy." not true! >>> not a single thing he said is accurate. first of all -- >> be specific. >> i will be very specific. this lecture on embassy security. the congressman here cut embassy...
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they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays on his federal income tax. >> reporter: ryan got personal. >> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from pennsylvania, i'm from wisconsin. you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is today? >> i sure do. >> it's 10%. >> yeah. >> you know what it was the day you guys came in? 8.5%. that's how it's going all around america. >> reporter: for a vice presidential debate, the stakes were high tonight. after mitt romney's big win in denver and president obama's no-show performance there, biden needed to stop the bleeding. ryan was going for the jugular, seeking to build the momentum republicans are feeling. >> the next time you hear them say, don't worry about it, we'll get a few wealthy people to pay their fair share, watch out, middle class. the tax bill is coming to you. >> reporter: there was a stark generation gap on that stage tonight. joe biden, born in 1942, is older than the baby boomers. paul ryan, born in 1970, is younger than the baby boomers. and ryan looks it. today, "time" magazine published photos taken last year an
they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays on his federal income tax. >> reporter: ryan got personal. >> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from pennsylvania, i'm from wisconsin. you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is today? >> i sure do. >> it's 10%. >> yeah. >> you know what it was the day you guys came in? 8.5%. that's how it's going all around america. >> reporter: for a vice presidential debate, the stakes were high...
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if you wanted to buy things from overseas, they were taxed. look how brazil is rising. there wouldn't be detroit without manufacturing things. disneyland in orange county would only be a bunch of orange groves if not for kodak and disney. i don't know the answer but i know the way we're going isn't the way. >> gavin: thank you. i know you have to go, thanks, buddy. just like will.i.am forever linked with the black eyed peas mickey hart will be forever linked to the grateful dead. mickey hart is trying to bridge the gap between art and science. our conversation coming up after the break. presidential debate. with unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> was this the game changer? is this going to change the dynamic? (vo) the only network with real-time reaction straight from the campaigns and from viewers like you. >>now that's politically direct. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...allstate safe driving bonus check? what is that? so weird, right? my agent, tom, said... [ voice of dennis ] ...only allstate sends you a bonus check for every six months you're acci
if you wanted to buy things from overseas, they were taxed. look how brazil is rising. there wouldn't be detroit without manufacturing things. disneyland in orange county would only be a bunch of orange groves if not for kodak and disney. i don't know the answer but i know the way we're going isn't the way. >> gavin: thank you. i know you have to go, thanks, buddy. just like will.i.am forever linked with the black eyed peas mickey hart will be forever linked to the grateful dead. mickey...
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tax. why should they be the only economic sector that is not paying? that would bring money into our economy for things that we need. >> not just since 2007, but over the last two years average income has declined. that's a huge problem for president obama. is that fair to say that's his fault, because he bailed out the banks just like bush did and didn't give any relief to the homeowners. >> exactly no relief to the homeowners, as to the students who are basically a generation of in dentured servants. this transpacific partnership is nafta on summer recognized off shoring our jobs and undermining wages. he is giving away the store to wall street over and over again without actually doing the things we can do. we're calling for a green new deal which would use our dollars for creating jobs directly not for more tax breaks for the job creators to create more jobs in india and china. he has his priorities mixed up. he does need to be held accountable not only for shipping jobs overseas, bail
tax. why should they be the only economic sector that is not paying? that would bring money into our economy for things that we need. >> not just since 2007, but over the last two years average income has declined. that's a huge problem for president obama. is that fair to say that's his fault, because he bailed out the banks just like bush did and didn't give any relief to the homeowners. >> exactly no relief to the homeowners, as to the students who are basically a generation of...
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like whether tax rates can be lowered without adding to the deficit. >> not mathematically possible. >> it is mathematically possible. it's been done before. it's precisely what we're proposing. >> it has never been done before. >> it's been done a couple of times, actually. >> it has never been done before. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates, increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? >> reporter: biden went right at ryan over mitt romney's controversial comments calling 47% of americans who don't pay income taxes irresponsible. >> the idea, if you heard that, that little sol little quill on 47%, you think he just made a mistake, then i got a bridge to sell you. >> i think the vice president very well knows sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> but i always say what i mean. >> reporter: when biden wasn't talking, he seemed oddly amused. by our count -- smiling or breaking out in laughter 92 separate times. expressive, often interrupting and occasionally personal. >> this is a bunch of stuff. look, here's the deal. >> what does that
like whether tax rates can be lowered without adding to the deficit. >> not mathematically possible. >> it is mathematically possible. it's been done before. it's precisely what we're proposing. >> it has never been done before. >> it's been done a couple of times, actually. >> it has never been done before. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates, increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? >> reporter: biden went right at ryan...
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the tax fund is the tax fund he rawn -- ran on four years ago. i don't think there is mucho lo forrd tsoeoe >> dra aki rds er worg iha performance. and now, he didn't mention 47%, joe biden has to mention that, very early on. the donors, the democratic donors are concerned. ther is angst on one side or eray y ean sne ntte. sed w i more. the next couple of years, for either president might be gridlock and drudgery and not doing much. and it may seem lik obama didn't want to dootny. reth t j t pren i to navigate that. i will take the last word. stand by. national security, health care, the americans get to rate the obama administration. so did it pass orail? see the scores next. you never know whall hap ivrsmnou at t mng whapdmi up. my doctor told me calcium is efficiently absorbed in small continuous amounts. citracal slow release continuously releases calcium plus d with efficient absorption in one daily dose. cialw as by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...byhe bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition,nergy, and can help yo
the tax fund is the tax fund he rawn -- ran on four years ago. i don't think there is mucho lo forrd tsoeoe >> dra aki rds er worg iha performance. and now, he didn't mention 47%, joe biden has to mention that, very early on. the donors, the democratic donors are concerned. ther is angst on one side or eray y ean sne ntte. sed w i more. the next couple of years, for either president might be gridlock and drudgery and not doing much. and it may seem lik obama didn't want to dootny. reth t...
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and third, taxes at 17%. for perspective, last week's presidential debate ranked in at a total of 10.3 million tweets. a lot of people using twitter tonight. again, you can tweet us about what you thought about the debate. when we come back, a final thought from us on this night, a big night, the only vice-presidential debate. >> wrapping it up from here, two words we department hear tonight -- big bird. >> good point. one word i did enjoy hearing
and third, taxes at 17%. for perspective, last week's presidential debate ranked in at a total of 10.3 million tweets. a lot of people using twitter tonight. again, you can tweet us about what you thought about the debate. when we come back, a final thought from us on this night, a big night, the only vice-presidential debate. >> wrapping it up from here, two words we department hear tonight -- big bird. >> good point. one word i did enjoy hearing
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tax the rich, tax the rich. look you're allowed to be rich. of course you want to build the largest house. somebody has got to have the largest house. that is not the issue. the issue is this guy then turns around and says this. if any new taxes are levied on me or my company as our current president plans i will have no choice but to reduce the size of this company. that is an obvious threat to his employees you better vote for romney or i'm going to fire you. it appears do you have another choice. perhaps you could reduce the size of your house. but oh no, no, no, you better not tax me another cent otherwise i'll fire all my workers. which would be a great brilliant business strategy. how would you run a company without workers. then your lazy ass would have to get up off the throne and do some work. in florida in 2000 he did this trick which he admits might have been illegal where he asked all of his workers, 8,000 workers in florida, hey, are you for the republicans or democrats. if they said democrats then they do anything with them. if t
tax the rich, tax the rich. look you're allowed to be rich. of course you want to build the largest house. somebody has got to have the largest house. that is not the issue. the issue is this guy then turns around and says this. if any new taxes are levied on me or my company as our current president plans i will have no choice but to reduce the size of this company. that is an obvious threat to his employees you better vote for romney or i'm going to fire you. it appears do you have another...
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why is it when you're taking advantage of a tax break and you're a businessman you're a businessman. but if you're taking advantage of something you're a moocher. >> cenk: ana. >> it might be entertaining, but it's substantive. when i was watching the debates that's what i do for a living. i have to pay attention to those things. i have a hard time doing it because it's so boring. the candidates have to be so polite. right there you see stewart's passion. you see he's being persuasive. why obama can't be like that? i understand the stress and pressure, it's a huge part of it, but obama has to be as respectful as possible, mitt romney has to be respectful. they can't raise their voices. i can't stand that about our debates. >> obama could have been better than he was. he'll never be jon stewart. he'll never strife to be jon stewart. but that's a great point about mooching and entitlements. that's great but he can't deliver it from standing on an apple cart to be higher and he can't joke. >> you'll always get people who will tear someone down. the small things that happen in debates, w
why is it when you're taking advantage of a tax break and you're a businessman you're a businessman. but if you're taking advantage of something you're a moocher. >> cenk: ana. >> it might be entertaining, but it's substantive. when i was watching the debates that's what i do for a living. i have to pay attention to those things. i have a hard time doing it because it's so boring. the candidates have to be so polite. right there you see stewart's passion. you see he's being...
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the tax fund is the tax fund he rawn -- ran on four years ago. i don't think there is much to look forward to so he doesn't have much to talk about. >> the democrats are shaking their heads. there was no energy in that performance. and now, he didn't mention 47%, joe biden has to mention that, very early on. the donors, the democratic donors are concerned. there is angst on one side or the other, always. >> my core reaction was romney wanted it more. he seemed to want it more. the next couple of years, for either president might be gridlock and drudgery and not doing much. and it may seem like obama didn't want to do to it anymore. >> greta: that's the job, to rise above t. the job of the president is to navigate that. i will take the last word. stand by. national security, health care, the americans get to rate the obama administration. so did it pass or fail? see the scores next. you never know what will happen on live t. mrs. romney found that out this morning. see what happened coming up. my doctor told me calcium is efficiently absorbed in s
the tax fund is the tax fund he rawn -- ran on four years ago. i don't think there is much to look forward to so he doesn't have much to talk about. >> the democrats are shaking their heads. there was no energy in that performance. and now, he didn't mention 47%, joe biden has to mention that, very early on. the donors, the democratic donors are concerned. there is angst on one side or the other, always. >> my core reaction was romney wanted it more. he seemed to want it more. the...
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you have abortion, insurance coverage, preexisting coverage tax cuts. you have got any number of issues. let them explain it. >> jennifer: all right. guys i'm so sorry, this is way too short. but i really appreciate you coming in. remember, by the way you can watch the debate tomorrow on current tv, our coverage begins at 8:00 eastern, 5:00 pacific bile in new york with eliot spitzer, john fugelsang, cenk uygur, and we of course are going to be enjoying it all. and we'll have our innovative twitter coverage on your screen. after the break there is one guy that loves mitt romney's flip flops more than most and that's the guy that sells them to it. i'll you. we know you. we know you have to rise early... and work late, with not enough sleep in between. how you sometimes need to get over to that exit, like, right now. and how things aren't... just about you anymore. introducing the all-new, smart-sensing... honda accord. it starts with you. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...allstate safe driving bonus check? what is that? so weird, right? my
you have abortion, insurance coverage, preexisting coverage tax cuts. you have got any number of issues. let them explain it. >> jennifer: all right. guys i'm so sorry, this is way too short. but i really appreciate you coming in. remember, by the way you can watch the debate tomorrow on current tv, our coverage begins at 8:00 eastern, 5:00 pacific bile in new york with eliot spitzer, john fugelsang, cenk uygur, and we of course are going to be enjoying it all. and we'll have our...
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about lowering taxes isn't as attractive to them. therefore i'm not likely to draw them into my campaign. >> joining me now is karen finney former communications director for the dnc and msnbc analyst. great to have you with us. >> good to see you, ed. >> was it a brilliant strategy on the part of the obama team for the president not to use the 47% remark to give an opening to mitt romney because a huge platform of 60 some plus million people. what about that? >> you know, that may very well be. i mean, the thing that, although that is so insulting is, think about it. just the clip you just played, the night that came out, the next day where did he go? fox news. with neil cavuto. he really stood by those comments. he said, well, i could have said them a little better but i really stand by the message. for the last two weeks he has been saying i stand by this message that those people, you know, that language, even in his ads he talks about those people, that they wouldn't be attracted to his message of lower taxes? i mean, who is he
about lowering taxes isn't as attractive to them. therefore i'm not likely to draw them into my campaign. >> joining me now is karen finney former communications director for the dnc and msnbc analyst. great to have you with us. >> good to see you, ed. >> was it a brilliant strategy on the part of the obama team for the president not to use the 47% remark to give an opening to mitt romney because a huge platform of 60 some plus million people. what about that? >> you...
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this tax would tax about 53% of small business income. it is expected to cost us 710,000 jobs and it wasn't even pay for 10% of the proposed deficit spending increases. we're saying lower tax rates across the board and close loopholes primary to the higher-income people. don't raise the deficit, raise taxes on the middle class, and bare the share of the income on the high-income earnings. even their own deputy campaign manager acknowledged that it wasn't correct. >> let's talk about this 90%. you have refused again to offer specifics for how you pay for that 20% across the board tax cut. do you have the specifics or are you still working on it and that's why you won't tell voters? >> ryan: we want to have big bipartisan agreements -- >> do you have the specifics? do you know what you are doing? >> ryan: look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together to lower tax rates and broaden the base and worked together to fix that. we're saying here is our framework, lower tax rates about 20% -- we forgo about $1.1 trillion in
this tax would tax about 53% of small business income. it is expected to cost us 710,000 jobs and it wasn't even pay for 10% of the proposed deficit spending increases. we're saying lower tax rates across the board and close loopholes primary to the higher-income people. don't raise the deficit, raise taxes on the middle class, and bare the share of the income on the high-income earnings. even their own deputy campaign manager acknowledged that it wasn't correct. >> let's talk about this...
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>>tax cuts don't create jobs. the golden years as the the highest tax rates, and the highest amount of growth, and the highest amount of jobs. those are facts. >>"if you ever raise taxes on the rich, you're going to destroy our economy." not true! ♪ >> jennifer: in our mitt moment today we go back to where we started, sesame street, and is the ads and means and jokes weren't enough, there is just something disturbing about the campaign for the most powerful person in the world coming down to pictures like this. four weeks left, everyone. it's going to get weird. all right. there's no use denying a huge influence on previously undecided voters, but according to brett ehrlich there is value in forcefully notifying these voters that they are making a huge mistake. shhhh, brett's talking now >> for all of you people who haven't been paying at attention to the presidential election, and have made up your mind based on but debate performance, you can't do that. i'm sorry. you just can't do that. this isn't some basket
>>tax cuts don't create jobs. the golden years as the the highest tax rates, and the highest amount of growth, and the highest amount of jobs. those are facts. >>"if you ever raise taxes on the rich, you're going to destroy our economy." not true! ♪ >> jennifer: in our mitt moment today we go back to where we started, sesame street, and is the ads and means and jokes weren't enough, there is just something disturbing about the campaign for the most powerful person...
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they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in their income taxes. i have had it up to here with this notion that 47% -- it's about time they take some responsibility here. and instead of signing pledges to grover nor quest not to ask the wealthiest among us to contribute to bring back the middle class, they would be signing a pledge saying to the middle class, we're going to level the playing field. >> stephanie: yay. yay. drret go ahead. >> caller: i wanted to thank you for keeping me sane that's first. >> stephanie: oh, thank you. >> caller: and i wanted to make three quick comments if i could. if all republicans had to talk about were biden's teeth we're in good shape. >> that's right. >> caller: but i am ronny that romney is up by seven in florida. >> stephanie: i have seen two different polls that one i'm not seeing. >> caller: oh, okay. i saw that on the internet. >> stephanie: let me dig through. nbc found them tied. >> caller: all right. and i loved jim ward's impersonation of groucho. >> thank you. >> caller: and finally i want to thank joh
they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in their income taxes. i have had it up to here with this notion that 47% -- it's about time they take some responsibility here. and instead of signing pledges to grover nor quest not to ask the wealthiest among us to contribute to bring back the middle class, they would be signing a pledge saying to the middle class, we're going to level the playing field. >> stephanie: yay. yay. drret go ahead. >> caller: i wanted to thank you...
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you do have a $5 trillion tax cut in your plans. you're not going to cover people's pre-existing conditions in your healthcare plan. you need to say it then and not rely on fax checkers the next day. >> eliot: you can't wait for the story the next day. ryan zerlina is right. you cannot depend upon that. how does the president need to do that,e vince this power and passion and sense of purpose that so clearly was missing. >> i think people want to see that he wants the job. that he wants to fight for them. if you look at it this way if somebody is looking at somebody who won't even stand up for themselves, then what are the chances they're thinking that this person is going to stand up for me? when you're watching obama in this debate you can finally see why it is that he was getting rolled day in and day out by the republicans on capitol hill. you can say hey man that is a guy i would like to be negotiating with. >> eliot: i'm going to interrupt for a reason. you said something critically important. and zerlina i want you to respond
you do have a $5 trillion tax cut in your plans. you're not going to cover people's pre-existing conditions in your healthcare plan. you need to say it then and not rely on fax checkers the next day. >> eliot: you can't wait for the story the next day. ryan zerlina is right. you cannot depend upon that. how does the president need to do that,e vince this power and passion and sense of purpose that so clearly was missing. >> i think people want to see that he wants the job. that he...
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one, of course, is to raise taxes. number two is to cut spending, number three is to grow the economy. because if more people work in a growing economy, they are paying taxes and you can get the job done that way. the president would prefer raising taxes. i understand. the problem with raising taxes is that it slows down the rate of growth. you can never quite get the job done. i want to lower spending and encourage economic growth at the same time. megyn: he is talking about broadening the tax base, because if you lower the taxes, people have more money, they spend more money, the federal government takes in more. lou: it will is a result of the growth that it stimulates. but we have to put forward a very important caveat. this president has been in office ends 2009. he has not once performed at the tax code, has not once altered the direction of the tax, spending, and borrowing of the government. romney is talking about reversing all of that. truth is, megyn, without reducing spending and taking control of that defic
one, of course, is to raise taxes. number two is to cut spending, number three is to grow the economy. because if more people work in a growing economy, they are paying taxes and you can get the job done that way. the president would prefer raising taxes. i understand. the problem with raising taxes is that it slows down the rate of growth. you can never quite get the job done. i want to lower spending and encourage economic growth at the same time. megyn: he is talking about broadening the tax...